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Ancient Power is a global passive bonus granted in exchange for losing almost all progress through the game. It is intended for end-game players who've exhausted all other methods of improving their characters (eg. obtained maximum gear, all the shards they need for their heroes, etc.).
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==Overview==
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Ancient Powers are obtained through the game's prestige system. In exchange for losing almost all progress in the game, you gain EXP and [[Gold]] bonuses, and Ancient Powers that apply to all players in your game session. It is intended for players who have exhausted all other methods of improving their characters.
  
 
Obtaining Ancient Power for the very first time requires the following conditions to be met:
 
Obtaining Ancient Power for the very first time requires the following conditions to be met:
  
* Beat Onslaught floor 30
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* Beat [[Onslaught]] Floor 30
* Reach Ascension level 250
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* Reach [[Ascension]] level 250
  
Each time you reset, the floor level requirement increases, but the ascension level requirement does not. If you take the time to increase your minimum ascension level as close as possible to 250, additional resets can be done much quicker.
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Each time you reset, the Floor level requirement increases, but the Ascension level requirement does not. If you do not have a minimum [[Ascension|Ascension level]] of at least 250, you may need to spend extra time farming experience before you can do another reset. The more minimum ascension you can get before your first reset, the easier it will be to solo your way back up to your next target floor. Generally, it is recommended that you reach [[Chaos|Chaos 9]] (which skips you to floor 300) before resetting for the first time.
  
See the [[Ancient Power Calculations]] chart for more information about minimum starting floors, the minimum floor required to do your next reset, and how minimum ascension is calculated.
 
  
Once you are ready to do a reset, speak to the Mananode in town.
 
  
= Resets =
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Once you are ready to do a reset, speak to [[Non_Playable_Characters#Mananode|Mananode]] in [[Town]].
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= After Resetting =
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[[File:Ancient Power Reset Emblems.png|thumb|right|All of the Ancient Power Emblems.]]
  
 
The following things will happen each time you do a reset:
 
The following things will happen each time you do a reset:
  
* You will receive 1 point to spend in a power of your choice.
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* You will gain 1 Ancient Power point to spend in any of the 14 Ancient Powers.
* You will receive a random prestige weapon.  Its unique mod will have a minimum quality of 5/10.
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* You '''may''' gain a new emblem for reaching a particular "prestige".
* Your gold and EXP bonus will be raised by 5% (stacks with each reset).
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* You will receive a random Prestigious weapon.  Its unique mod will have a minimum quality of 5/10.
* Your ascension talent caps will be increased up to a maximum of 999 for talents that originally capped at 140 (eg. Hero Health's talent cap will be raised, but Hero Crit Chance will not).
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* Your [[Gold]] and EXP bonuses will be incremented by 5%.
* All items in your store will be placed into your inventory, or scavenger if your inventory is full.
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* [[Ascension|Ascension Talent Caps]] for Talents with an original cap of 200 will be increased.  
* The minimum floor you can start on will increase, caps at 50.
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* All items in your shop will be returned to your inventory (or the [[Non Playable Characters#Scavenger|Scavenger]], if your inventory is full).
* The minimum floor you have to clear for your next reset will increase, caps at 80.
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* Your minimum [[Onslaught]] Floor will increase.
 
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* The Onslaught Floor required for the next reset '''may''' increase.
All progress related to equipment, ascention, and access to game modes will be lost:
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* Your [[Ascension|Ascension level]] will be set to your [[Ascension|minimum Ascension level]].
 
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* All of your [[Armor]], [[Weapons]], and [[Relics]] will be downgraded to Campaign level (includes all equipped items and items in your Vault).
* All of your equipment (armor, weapons, relics) will be set down to campaign level.
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* All of your [[Shards|ungilded Shards]] and [[Shards|Hyper Shards]] will be downgraded to level 1 (includes all equipped [[shards]] and [[shards]] in your Vault).
* All upgrades in all of your shards (including Hyper Shards) will be lost, unless the shard is gilded.
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* You now have a chance to earn Prestigious [[weapons]], [[Mananode Gifts]], and [[Defender Packs]] from [[Onslaught]] Floors you have previously beaten again.
* All chaos difficulties above Chaos I (Expeditions, Incursions, and Mastery) will be locked until you meet the conditions to unlock them again.
 
* Your ascention will be reset down to the minimum ascention level, as indicated in the Powers menu.
 
  
This also means you can earn the following items on floors you've cleared in a previous reset:
 
  
* Prestige weapons that are granted every 10 floors
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The following things '''are not''' downgraded or reset during a reset:
* Defender packs
 
  
The following things '''will not''' be impacted by a reset:
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* [[Rings]] and [[Pets]].
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* The quality of your [[Mods]] (out of 10), though their [[Chaos|Chaos level]] will still be downgraded along with the item.
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* [[Mastery]] progress.
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* [[Wayfarer]] [[weapons]] already unlocked.
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* Cosmetics.
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* [[Defender Packs]].
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* [[Gold]], [[Gems]], and [[Defender Medals]].
  
* Stars obtained in Mastery
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Furthermore, other items such as Materials or Consumables etc. will also not disappear after a reset.
* Weapon unlocks at the Wayfarer (what's unlocked stays unlocked)
 
* Pets (this was changed in the Isle of Dread update on 2018-09-23)
 
* Crafting items
 
* Currencies (gold, defender medals, gems, etc.)
 
* Cosmetics
 
 
 
= Stacking & Caps =
 
 
 
The maximum amount of points you can put into each ability is 5.  However, since Ancient Powers are a global buff, it can be stacked up to a maximum of 10 when additional players join who have the same powers.
 
 
 
If Player 1 has 5 points and Player 2 has 5 points in Ancient Ability Power, it will combine to 10.  However, if Player 3 joins and also has 1 point, it will be ignored because the cap has already been reached.
 
  
 
= Powers =
 
= Powers =
  
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Individual players can assign up to 5 points to each ancient power. Most of these powers attain their maximum effectiveness at 10 points, yet the '''Ancient Respawn''' for instance, reaches its peak with just 5 points.
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When all players contribute their Ancient Powers, their effects are pooled together.
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To fully maximize all ancient powers in solo play, it would take 70 ancient power resets. However, collaborating with others allows for surpassing the 5-point threshold in each power.
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|Ancient Ability Power
 
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|Ancient Heroic Power
 
|Ancient Heroic Power
|Hero Damage increased by x%
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|Hero Damage increased by x%.
 
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|Ancient Health
 
|Ancient Health
|Hero Health increased by x%
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|Hero Health increased by x%.
 
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| [[File:Ancient Resistance.png|35px]]
 
|Ancient Resistance
 
|Ancient Resistance
|All resistances increased by x%
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|All resistances increased by x%.
 
|4%
 
|4%
 
|6%
 
|6%
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|9%
 
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| [[File:Ancient Life Steal.png|35px]]
 
|Ancient Life Steal
 
|Ancient Life Steal
|Primary/Secondary attacks heal for x%
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|Primary/Secondary attacks heal for x% of damage dealt.
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|0.5%
 
|1%
 
|1%
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|1.5%
 
|2%
 
|2%
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|2.5%
 
|3%
 
|3%
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|3.5%
 
|4%
 
|4%
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|4.5%
 
|5%
 
|5%
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|?
 
|?
 
|?
 
|?
 
 
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| [[File:Ancient Fortification.png|35px]]
 
|Ancient Fortification
 
|Ancient Fortification
|Defense Health increased by x%
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|Defense Health increased by x%.
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|2%
 
|4%
 
|4%
 
|6%
 
|6%
 
|8%
 
|8%
|9%
 
 
|10%
 
|10%
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|12%
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|14%
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|16%
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|18%
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| [[File:Ancient Destruction.png|35px]]
 
|Ancient Destruction
 
|Ancient Destruction
|Defense Power increased by x%
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|Defense Power increased by x%.
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|2%
 
|4%
 
|4%
 
|6%
 
|6%
 
|8%
 
|8%
|9%
 
 
|10%
 
|10%
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|12%
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|14%
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|16%
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|18%
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|20%
 
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| [[File:Ancient Strikes.png|35px]]
 
|Ancient Strikes
 
|Ancient Strikes
|Defense Range increased by x%
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|Defense Range increased by x%.
 
|1%
 
|1%
 
|2%
 
|2%
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|4%
 
|5%
 
|5%
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|6%
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|8%
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|9%
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|10%
 
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| [[File:Ancient Builder.png|35px]]
 
|Ancient Builder
 
|Ancient Builder
|Tower Build Time decreased by x%
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|Tower Build Time decreased by x%.
 
|4%
 
|4%
 
|6%
 
|6%
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|9%
 
|9%
 
|10%
 
|10%
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| [[File:Ancient Respawn.png|35px]]
 
|Ancient Respawn
 
|Ancient Respawn
|Hero Respawn Time is reduced by x%
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|Hero Respawn Time is reduced by x%.
 
|12%
 
|12%
 
|18%
 
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|27%
 
|30%
 
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| [[File:Ancient Defense Critical Damage.png|35px]]
 
|Ancient Defense Critical Damage
 
|Ancient Defense Critical Damage
|Defense Critical Damage increased by x%
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|Defense Critical Damage increased by x%.
 
|4%
 
|4%
 
|6%
 
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| [[File:Ancient Defense Critical Chance.png|35px]]
 
|Ancient Defense Critical Chance
 
|Ancient Defense Critical Chance
|Defense Critical Chance increased by x%
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|Defense Critical Chance increased by x%.
 
|1%
 
|1%
 
|2%
 
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|4%
 
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| [[File:Ancient Hero Critical Chance.png|35px]]
 
|Ancient Hero Critical Chance
 
|Ancient Hero Critical Chance
|Hero Critical Chance increased by x%
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|Hero Critical Chance increased by x%.
 
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|1%
 
|2%
 
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|Ancient Hero Critical Damage
 
|Ancient Hero Critical Damage
|Hero Critical Damage increased by x%
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|Hero Critical Damage increased by x%.
 
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==Ancient Power Calculations==
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=== Ancient Power Floor Scaling ===
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Ancient Power Level !! Ancient Power Base Floor !! Ancient Power Floor Goal !! Number of Floors to Complete
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| 0 || 0 || 30 || 30
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| 1 || 5 || 30 || 25
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| 2 || 10 || 31 || 21
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| 3 || 12 || 31 || 19
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| 4 || 14 || 32 || 18
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|-
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| 5 || 16 || 32 || 16
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| 6 || 18 || 33 || 15
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| 7 || 19 || 34 || 15
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| 8 || 20 || 35 || 15
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| 9 || 21 || 36 || 15
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| 10 || 22 || 37 || 15
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| 11 || 23 || 38 || 15
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| 12 || 24 || 39 || 15
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| 13 || 25 || 40 || 15
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| 14 || 26 || 42 || 16
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| 15 || 28 || 45 || 17
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| 16 || 30 || 50 || 20
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| 17 || 35 || 52 || 17
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| 18 || 36 || 54 || 18
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| 19 || 37 || 56 || 19
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| 20 || 38 || 58 || 20
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| 21 || 39 || 60 || 21
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| 22 || 40 || 62 || 22
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| 23 || 41 || 64 || 23
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| 24 || 42 || 66 || 24
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| 25 || 43 || 68 || 25
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| 26 || 44 || 70 || 26
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| 27 || 45 || 72 || 27
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| 28 || 46 || 74 || 28
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| 29 || 47 || 76 || 29
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| 30 || 48 || 78 || 30
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| 31 || 50 || 80 || 30
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| 32 || 80 || 120 || 40
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| 33 - 49 || 260 || 299 || 39
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| 50+ || 260 || 320 || 60
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=== Talent Cap Increases ===
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Talent Cap increases are done by adding together increases from your floor progression, and from your ascension:
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* '''Floor Progression:'''  (Onslaught Floor Reached - Original Target Onslaught Floor) * 4.16
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* '''Ascension Increase:'''  (Ascension Level / 50)
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So if you were on Onslaught Floor 78, with a Original Target Onslaught Floor of 30 (it will always be this value), and 500 Ascension Levels, the calculation looks like this:
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(78 - 30) * 4.16 + (500/50) = 48 * 4.16 + 10 = 210
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This means your Talent Caps would be raised by 210.
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These cap raises do not affect all talents, and the cap that the affected ones can reach is 999.
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=== Minimum Ascension ===
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'''Formula:''' <code>((Max Onslaught Floor Reached Ever - Original Target Onslaught Floor) x 4.16 + (Max Ascension Level Reached ever / 50) ) x 3</code>
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So if your highest Onslaught Floor reached was 100, with your Original Target Onslaught Floor (this value will always be 30), and 500 Ascension Levels, the calculation looks like this:
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((100 - 30) * 4.16 + (500/50)) * 3 = (70* 4.16 + 10) * 3 = 903.6
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So your Minimum Ascension with the above amounts would be set to 904. In game with this example, you will see how much is going to be added to  your current Minimum Ascension on the Ancient Power screen (i.e. if you had 100 Minimum Ascension, you will see "+804"). This only increases if you've surpassed your previous highest Onslaught Floor.
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Latest revision as of 09:31, 5 April 2024

Overview

Ancient Powers are obtained through the game's prestige system. In exchange for losing almost all progress in the game, you gain EXP and Gold bonuses, and Ancient Powers that apply to all players in your game session. It is intended for players who have exhausted all other methods of improving their characters.

Obtaining Ancient Power for the very first time requires the following conditions to be met:

Each time you reset, the Floor level requirement increases, but the Ascension level requirement does not. If you do not have a minimum Ascension level of at least 250, you may need to spend extra time farming experience before you can do another reset. The more minimum ascension you can get before your first reset, the easier it will be to solo your way back up to your next target floor. Generally, it is recommended that you reach Chaos 9 (which skips you to floor 300) before resetting for the first time.


Once you are ready to do a reset, speak to Mananode in Town.

After Resetting

All of the Ancient Power Emblems.

The following things will happen each time you do a reset:

  • You will gain 1 Ancient Power point to spend in any of the 14 Ancient Powers.
  • You may gain a new emblem for reaching a particular "prestige".
  • You will receive a random Prestigious weapon. Its unique mod will have a minimum quality of 5/10.
  • Your Gold and EXP bonuses will be incremented by 5%.
  • Ascension Talent Caps for Talents with an original cap of 200 will be increased.
  • All items in your shop will be returned to your inventory (or the Scavenger, if your inventory is full).
  • Your minimum Onslaught Floor will increase.
  • The Onslaught Floor required for the next reset may increase.
  • Your Ascension level will be set to your minimum Ascension level.
  • All of your Armor, Weapons, and Relics will be downgraded to Campaign level (includes all equipped items and items in your Vault).
  • All of your ungilded Shards and Hyper Shards will be downgraded to level 1 (includes all equipped shards and shards in your Vault).
  • You now have a chance to earn Prestigious weapons, Mananode Gifts, and Defender Packs from Onslaught Floors you have previously beaten again.


The following things are not downgraded or reset during a reset:

Furthermore, other items such as Materials or Consumables etc. will also not disappear after a reset.

Powers

Individual players can assign up to 5 points to each ancient power. Most of these powers attain their maximum effectiveness at 10 points, yet the Ancient Respawn for instance, reaches its peak with just 5 points.
When all players contribute their Ancient Powers, their effects are pooled together.
To fully maximize all ancient powers in solo play, it would take 70 ancient power resets. However, collaborating with others allows for surpassing the 5-point threshold in each power.

Icon Power Description 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
Ancient Ability Power.png Ancient Ability Power Ability Power increased by x%. 4% 6% 8% 9% 10% 12% 14% 16% 18% 20%
Ancient Heroic Power.png Ancient Heroic Power Hero Damage increased by x%. 4% 6% 8% 9% 10% 12% 14% 16% 18% 20%
Ancient Health.png Ancient Health Hero Health increased by x%. 4% 6% 8% 9% 10% 12% 14% 16% 18% 20%
Ancient Resistance.png Ancient Resistance All resistances increased by x%. 4% 6% 8% 9% 10% 12% 14% 16% 18% 20%
Ancient Life Steal.png Ancient Life Steal Primary/Secondary attacks heal for x% of damage dealt. 0.5% 1% 1.5% 2% 2.5% 3% 3.5% 4% 4.5% 5%
Ancient Fortification.png Ancient Fortification Defense Health increased by x%. 2% 4% 6% 8% 10% 12% 14% 16% 18% 20%
Ancient Destruction.png Ancient Destruction Defense Power increased by x%. 2% 4% 6% 8% 10% 12% 14% 16% 18% 20%
Ancient Strikes.png Ancient Strikes Defense Range increased by x%. 1% 2% 3% 4% 5% 6% 7% 8% 9% 10%
Ancient Builder.png Ancient Builder Tower Build Time decreased by x%. 4% 6% 8% 9% 10% 12% 14% 16% 18% 20%
Ancient Respawn.png Ancient Respawn Hero Respawn Time is reduced by x%. 12% 18% 24% 27% 30% 30% 30% 30% 30% 30%
Ancient Defense Critical Damage.png Ancient Defense Critical Damage Defense Critical Damage increased by x%. 4% 6% 8% 9% 10% 12% 14% 16% 18% 20%
Ancient Defense Critical Chance.png Ancient Defense Critical Chance Defense Critical Chance increased by x%. 1% 2% 3% 4% 5% 6% 7% 8% 9% 10%
Ancient Hero Critical Chance.png Ancient Hero Critical Chance Hero Critical Chance increased by x%. 1% 2% 3% 4% 5% 6% 7% 8% 9% 10%
Ancient Hero Critical Damage.png Ancient Hero Critical Damage Hero Critical Damage increased by x%. 4% 6% 8% 9% 10% 12% 14% 16% 18% 20%

Ancient Power Calculations

Ancient Power Floor Scaling

Ancient Power Level Ancient Power Base Floor Ancient Power Floor Goal Number of Floors to Complete
0 0 30 30
1 5 30 25
2 10 31 21
3 12 31 19
4 14 32 18
5 16 32 16
6 18 33 15
7 19 34 15
8 20 35 15
9 21 36 15
10 22 37 15
11 23 38 15
12 24 39 15
13 25 40 15
14 26 42 16
15 28 45 17
16 30 50 20
17 35 52 17
18 36 54 18
19 37 56 19
20 38 58 20
21 39 60 21
22 40 62 22
23 41 64 23
24 42 66 24
25 43 68 25
26 44 70 26
27 45 72 27
28 46 74 28
29 47 76 29
30 48 78 30
31 50 80 30
32 80 120 40
33 - 49 260 299 39
50+ 260 320 60

Talent Cap Increases

Talent Cap increases are done by adding together increases from your floor progression, and from your ascension:

  • Floor Progression: (Onslaught Floor Reached - Original Target Onslaught Floor) * 4.16
  • Ascension Increase: (Ascension Level / 50)

So if you were on Onslaught Floor 78, with a Original Target Onslaught Floor of 30 (it will always be this value), and 500 Ascension Levels, the calculation looks like this:

(78 - 30) * 4.16 + (500/50) = 48 * 4.16 + 10 = 210

This means your Talent Caps would be raised by 210.

These cap raises do not affect all talents, and the cap that the affected ones can reach is 999.

Minimum Ascension

Formula: ((Max Onslaught Floor Reached Ever - Original Target Onslaught Floor) x 4.16 + (Max Ascension Level Reached ever / 50) ) x 3

So if your highest Onslaught Floor reached was 100, with your Original Target Onslaught Floor (this value will always be 30), and 500 Ascension Levels, the calculation looks like this:

((100 - 30) * 4.16 + (500/50)) * 3 = (70* 4.16 + 10) * 3 = 903.6

So your Minimum Ascension with the above amounts would be set to 904. In game with this example, you will see how much is going to be added to your current Minimum Ascension on the Ancient Power screen (i.e. if you had 100 Minimum Ascension, you will see "+804"). This only increases if you've surpassed your previous highest Onslaught Floor.